Wednesday, 16 October 2019

Bakerloo extension consultation

This is not quite a Triangle matter, but probably of interest to many residents: Transport for London (TFL) has begun a 10-week public consultation on the proposed extension of the Bakerloo Line which would extend the line from Elephant & Castle to Lewisham.
The consultation can be found at  along with information on why the extension is needed, the new capacity it would provide and the area’s that it will open up (notably, according to the London Borough of Lewisham, one area being Deptford Creek and Greenwich Riverside).
There is also a public exhibition this Saturday 19th October between 10;00 and 16:00 at Lewisham Shopping Centre, Central Square, Molesworth Street, London SE13 7EP where you can find out more about the proposals and talk to members of the project team.

Wednesday, 2 October 2019

Update on the proposed redevelopment of the former Magistrate Courts

The ATA has been notified that LHG owners of the former Magistrates Court have submitted further information as part of their planning application to redevelop the site and refurbish the former Magistrate Court and school buildings. To read more the revised planning application please see this update from the ATA’s Planning Team.
If anyone wishes to receive a copy of the revised Design & Access Statement please get in touch as we can email a copy to you. Deadline for the public consultation is 20th October. Any questions feel free to get in touch with the ATA Planning Team on

Friday, 27 September 2019

Complaint made against the ATA - please may we solicit your opinion?

Dear Ashburnham Triangle Residents,
As you know we held our annual ATA Summer street party on 7th Sept. It was a great success and it seemed a good time was had by all. That is with the exception of one resident living in Ashburnham Place.
This resident has written an official letter of complaint to The Environmental Health, Pollution & Residential Services with a complaint. “Complaint of noise nuisance - raised voices, shouting, screaming and loud music from a street party organised by the Ashburnham Triangle Association.” Under the Environmental Protection Act 1990 RBG are obliged to investigate. Hence this post and call for your feedback and input into the complaint.
We believed the noise was within acceptance levels for a Saturday afternoon public gathering. What is interesting is that noise is completely subjective and can only be defined by a decibel test which the Greenwich Council environmental team could have done on the day. However the complainant decided she would wait for a week to make the complaint before writing a letter to the Council on September 13th, 2019.
The ATA has been running the street party for over fifteen years and this is the first time someone has complained, but everyone of course is entitled to a view and a voice.
As this is a community event we would like to solicit feedback from other residents as part of our official reply to Greenwich Council.
Please send comments / feedback / views on the street party noise levels to We shall collate all of them without prejudice and write a formal reply.  

Tuesday, 10 September 2019

Thames Tideway Tunnel Meeting

The next Community Liaison Working Group meeting to discuss Thames Tideway Tunnel matters in on September 12th, from 6 to 8 pm, in the Creekside Environment Centre. Please come along if you can. The meeting will report on how the excavation of the drop shaft is proceeding and the operation of the traffic management arrangements in and out of Norman Road, both present and future. It will be the first chance we have had to discuss our experience of the new lorry arrangements on Norman Road and Greenwich High Road. If you can’t make the meeting but would like to make a comment on the lorry arrangements please send an email to Barbara Reid, or Neil Sinclair, who will both be attending the meeting. Mick Delap who liaises with Thames Tideway on behalf of the ATA is away. We’ll also ask for an update on bookings for visiting the Pumping Station on Open House weekend (21 September) and find out if there’s a waiting list or other days when the site could be open to local residents.

Monday, 9 September 2019

Safer Neighbourhoods September Update

Following the recent Safer Neighbourhoods Panel meeting the main point of concern is the dramatic increase in phone snatching.
Our local police are organising for the above Met Police poster to be displayed in shop windows, cafes etc following the sudden rise in crime. Groups of youths have been seen in and around Cutty Sark Gardens wearing hoodies and puffa coats even in hot temperatures and targeting lone females for their phones. Most phone snatching has been on foot or bicycle. With the new student year about to commence phone snatching is predicted to continue with the town centre and Thames Path being the most vulnerable areas.

This is what the police advise:

Criminals are using mopeds and bicycles to snatch mobiles and handbags in this area, often riding up behind the victim and even mounting the pavement to grab them. Police are carrying out operations to target these offenders, but there are some simple steps you can take to protect your property.

Be aware of your surroundings
Don’t text while you’re walking – you won’t notice potential thieves approaching.
• Try going hands free or stand away from the roadside close to a wall so no one can come up behind you.

Use the security features on your phone
Your phone comes with a range of security features, such as keypad locks
and remote data wiping. Make sure they are all activated to stop thieves from accessing your phone and personal data.

Know how to identify your phone if it’s stolen
Find your IMEI number by dialling *#06# from your phone and keep a written note of it. If the phone is stolen, report it to the police and your mobile provider to stop it being used.
• Register your phone on to help police return recovered stolen property and combat the sale of stolen goods. Police recover more than 2500 items registered to the website on average every month.

Never confront a thief or risk your own safety for the sake of your mobile device.

In an emergency call 999. To report to police after your phone has been stolen, or for other police enquiries call 101 or visit Follow us on Twitter @metpoliceuk.

Other News:
Following the dramatic tasering of a male who held a bread knife to the throat of a woman in Cutty Sark Gardens last month, the police confirmed this is still under investigation. The incident is due to mental health problems and a disagreement between neighbours.

Inside the Triangle
Motor vehicle crime continues to be a problem within the Triangle. We have seen an increase in motor vehicle theft by keyless car crime and there has also been many reports of attempted theft of both cars and mopeds. I can only reiterate the following advice to ensure you keep your vehicle safe:
  • Keep cars keys aways from the front of your house and instead keep keys in either a metal tin or key signal blocker pouch such as Faraday which can stop the car key being cloned remotely and the theft of your vehicle.
  • Steering wheel locks are becoming more popular as this is another obstacle for a thief. If they see a steering wheel lock they are more likely to move on.
  • Do NOT leave any valuables on display inside your vehicle. 

There were six reports of burglaries within the Triangle between the months of July and September with the main point of entry being basement sash windows. Again, make sure all windows are locked using window bolts on sash windows before you leave your property. 

Reports of various drug dealing operating around the Triangle includes outside St.Marks Hostel and along Egerton Drive (near Greenwich High Road and near the church). Can I please ask if you see a drug transaction to report the crime to 101. Today's policing is managed by statistics and act accordingly to what is reported. If we ALL continue to report such activity then more police will be sent to investigate the problem. Just make a note of the date, time, location and a rough description of the individuals involved and either dial 101 or email:

Fly tipping appears to be on the rise within the Triangle. To keep our area looking clean can you please report any fly tipping to

In my last update I mentioned we were looking into how Lambeth Council managed to ban nitrous oxide canisters within the borough and whether Greenwich could follow suit.  We understand a fixed amount of penalty notices (FPN) need to be issued to be able to go forward with this plan. We are therefore still investigating how to proceed and will report back accordingly.

For your information please find attached minutes of the meeting held in July here.

Tina Pugh
ATA Security / Police Liaison

Friday, 30 August 2019

It's all go this September......

....While summer may be drawing to an end, the Ashburnham Triangle is kicking off September with a big bang. Next Saturday 7th September sees our annual Street Party starting at 1pm, Ashburnham Retreat, aka "Play Street". Lots of great entertainment including live music, climbing wall, bouncy castle, magician and as usual all those finger licking foodie treats so make sure you come along.

Then on Thursday 12th September the Ashburnham Arms will once again be releasing those numbered balls for another fun night of Bingo. All proceeds raised will be going to the charity Tommy's. Fantastic prizes to be won together with a raffle.  Remember, you've got to be in it to win it!

Hope to see you there.

Wednesday, 28 August 2019

History Group Meeting

A reminder that our next history group meeting is on Thursday 29 August, 7.30pm in the back room of The Ashburnham Arms.

Tuesday, 27 August 2019

Two Stabbings in Greenwich Town Centre

An incident took place in Greenwich Town Centre at around 3:30pm this afternoon, Tuesday 27th AugustOfficers were called to Norman Road in relation to a stabbing and then to the Cutty Sark in relation to a male holding a knife up to a female's throat. Police attended and the male suspect was tasered and arrested. The full details are still being gathered by the police but at present I can confirm there were two female victims, one of whom is the mother of the suspect. The mother has stated the suspect has mental health issues.

Enquiries continue and a crime scene remains in place. If you have any information regarding this incident please contact either our Safer Neighbourhood Police or dial 101.

Tina Pugh
Police Liaison / ATA Security

Greenwich West Safer Neighbourhood Police
Telephone: 0208 284 5494

Sunday, 18 August 2019

Car crime in the Triangle on the rise

Car crime within Greenwich has been rising steadily over the last year and sadly we have noticed a dramatic rise within the Triangle.

Over the past couple of weeks there has been numerous reports of damage to vehicles in Guildford Grove, Langdale and Catherine Grove where cars have been broken into and items stolen from inside. Last week, between the hours of 20:00 and 06:50 on 14/15th August a BMW X5 was stolen from Guildford Grove. The key for this vehicle must have been cloned as there was no smashed glass where the vehicle was originally parked. High spec vehicles are desirable and are stolen to order. Car keys need to be kept away from the front of the house and ideally stored in a “car key blocker case". (click here for link to best signal blockers from car buyer). If the signal is blocked it makes stealing your car that much harder.  

A local resident has repeatedly captured images on their home security camera of potential car thieves. They walk in parallel down the roads, looking in vehicles and are described as wearing thick builders / garden gloves which they are probably wearing to smash open car windows. They appear to be in the area between midnight and 06:00. 

To discourange theft from vehicles please DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING in your vehicle overnight. The police suggest you leave your glove box open showing there is nothing in there to steal.  Pictures below show images captured from a home security camera of potential thieves looking into vehicles.

Please remain vigilant and report any suspicious behaviour to the police.

Tina Pugh
ATA Security / Police Liaison

Greenwich West Safer Neighbourhood Police: 0208 2845494 (not 24 hour service)

Sunday, 28 July 2019

Save the date - don't make any other plans!

 7th September 2019 – THE ATA SUMMER STREET PARTY

  • 1pm 'til 6pm, Ashburnham Retreat Play Street
  • Live Music, Food, Entertainment & of course superb raffle prizes
  • Sponsored by Felicity J Lord – Greenwich

We are looking for volunteers that would be happy to have a promotion board outside their house to promote the event. If you are happy to have one please contact ChrisWard,

We are also looking for volunteers to make and donate a cake on the day. If you are a budding Bake Off fan please contact Anastasia Graham-Yooll,

See you on the 7th!

Friday, 19 July 2019

Bogus Tree Surgeons

We have been notified by the Council that there has been a spate of rogue tree surgeons operating in the Triangle and surrounding area’s who have taken some works to trees without the benefit of planning permission, by posing as qualified tree surgeons offering to cut down or provide maintenance to garden trees in exchange for cash (at highly inflated levels). False addresses, mobile numbers and websites have been used on materials provided and vehicles used.
The Triangle is protected by a Conservation Area designation in addition, some trees (including trees located in private gardens) may be subject to a Tree Preservation Order (TPO) – which protects specific trees, groups of trees or woodlands in the interests of amenity. The Council must be notified six weeks in advance of intended works to a tree located within a Conservation Area or covered by a TPO unless a specific exemption applies (such as where a tree poses a risk to the public). To cut down, uproot or destroy a tree covered by a TPO or within a Conservation Area, or to authorise such an action to take place, is considered an offence under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990. Rogue tree surgeons are therefore leaving landowners potentially liable to criminal prosecution.
More information can be found on the Council’s website on the following link:
It's strongly recommended NOT to use the services of any cold callers claiming to be tree surgeons or any other trades – we are aware that one elderly resident (not from the Triangle) was forcibly taken to the bank to get money for works. Please only use recommended trades people known to neighbours, friends or relatives or do get in touch with the ATA’s planning team at
If you do see works being carried to trees which may not have planning consent to be pruned/felled please contact the planning enforcement team on 020 8921 5559 or Work to trees will often require careful consideration by an experienced Arboriculturalist or a person who is practiced in assessing the health of trees and their appropriate management. Tree works should also ideally be undertaken outside of the bird nesting season (March – October) to prevent destruction of eggs and harm to birds protected by the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.

Thursday, 18 July 2019

Safer Neighbourhoods July Update

We welcome Sergeant Iain O’Hara to the Safer Neighbourhoods Team who joined on 2nd June. Iain has been with the Metropolitan Police for over 19 years and specifically requested to join a Safer Neighbourhood Team in his next role. We look forward to building on our close relationship with the SNT Team.

The rest of the Safer Neighbourhood Team remains unchanged:

Police Constable John Moody
Police Constable Jaime Welch - currently on maternity leave but returning 24th August
PCSO Henry Lawton

Outside the Triangle
There has been numerous reports of bag and phone snatching near the Cutty Sark boat. Police advise not to walk and talk on your phone around this area and to be vigilant of your surroundings if you do need to make/take a call. 

There are new beggars within the Town Centre. Please note that many of these beggars are known to police and are not actually homeless.  Police advise NOT to give money to anyone begging.

Drug dealing and drug taking at Point Hill is on the increase. Recently teenagers were approached asking if they would like to buy drugs and when they declined a knife was pulled out on them. The teenagers got away without injury.

At the end of June there was a robbery down Bardsley Lane. The victim was stabbed in the head and his vehicle (Land Rover) was stolen. Bardsley Lane is behind Tesco Metro and the back entrance of St.Alfege Church Park. The robbery took place at 11pm. The victim has been treated for his injuries. The car has not been recovered.

There was another attempted robbery approx 2 weeks ago along Gloucester Circus at 2am. A man and woman approached a man on his way home from a night out asking him for the time. As they came closer they pulled a knife and demanded his wallet. The victim went to get his wallet out and then ran. Fortunately for him there was a passing police car. The police chased the criminals, caught them and secured the knife and charged them. Proof that police on our streets does catch criminals!

Within the Triangle
16 July at 2:45pm a lady was mugged along Devonshire Drive by two young black males on a black moped. They pretended to ask for directions and once they had the ladies attention snatched her bag.

Over the last two months burglary figures continue to decrease with hardly any reports within The Triangle. Outbuildings (sheds/garages) have been the main target recently. Motor vehicle crime within the Triangle is also down but there is still too many reports of thefs from cars. Please DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING ON DISPLAY.

Local Councillors have contacted the demolition company working along Norman Road (Opp North Pole) as many vehicles have been seen to park in the emergency access bay along Egerton Drive. The company has been warned to cease parking here.

Nitrous Oxide Canisters
Local Councillors are looking into how we can ban the use of Nitrous Oxide canisters within the borough of Greenwich. The small silver cannisters (supposed to be used for whipping cream but are used for a legal high when inhaled), have been creating a littering hazard for many years now.  The London Borough of Lambeth has successfully banned these annoying canisters and hopefully Greenwich can follow. Watch this space.

The police are aware of a man dealing drugs outside Davy’s Wine bar and are currently monitoring the situation.

Drug dealing and the use of drug taking is increasing at an alarming rate. Often residents say they see dealers and users, especially outside or near the North Pole.

If you see drug dealing, and in order to help the police can you….

- Take a picture (if safe to do so)
- Note the time and date
- Forward to your ATA Rep or the safer neighbourhood police team

Trading Standard has issued three alerts recently.  See below and attached.
Tina Pugh
ATA Security / Police Liaison

Wednesday, 17 July 2019

Mugging in Devonshire Drive

Yesterday, Tuesday 16th July, at approx 2:45pm a lady had her handbag/phone snatched from two young black males, possible Somalian appearance on a black moped along Devonshire Drive. The moped riders used the false pretence of asking for directions and then snatch bag/phone and drove off at high speed. A local resident witnessed the mugging and reported the crime to a passing police car.

Do you have cameras in Devonshire Drive and captured any video footage we can forward to the police?  

Please be extra vigilant. Bag and phone snatching is particularly prevalent in the Town Centre at this time of year, often on mopeds, but seeing it happen within the Triangle is very worrying.

Tina Pugh
ATA Security / Police Liaison

Saturday, 6 July 2019

2019 ATA Street Party - save the date!

It’s back on a Saturday! This year’s summer street party is on Saturday, September 7th, starting at 1pm.

History Group update

Notes from the June meeting of our History group can be read here.

Information on writing contributions to Layers of London can be found here.

Monday, 1 July 2019

Greenwich blue bin collection

Greenwich council has tweeted that some streets did not have their recycling bins collected on Monday due to “operational difficulties”. Residents are asked to leave blue lid bins out on Tuesday, July 2nd for emptying.

Monday, 24 June 2019

Attempted car thefts on Guildford Grove

A local resident captured video footage of a white male checking car doors on Sunday 23 June at approx 01:32. This information has been forwarded to the police. The description of the individual involved:
Hair: Short dark
Top: Light long sleeved jacket
Bottom: Dark shorts
Shoes: White trainers
Build: Slim
Ethnicity: White
Sex: Male
Other details: Holding a light or mobile phone in his right hand
Theft from car vehicles is on the increase especially within the Triangle. Make sure you are not a victim. Lock your vehicle; close all windows and NEVER leave anything on display.

A Personal Tribute to Diana Rimel

Former Security Representative and ATA Member David Scales writes:
My mother, Diana Rimel, one of the original members and an early collaborator in the formation of the Ashburnham Triangle Association in the mid 1970s, sadly passed away in the QE Hospital on 12th June 2019 aged 81.
For much of my early life, I lived with my sister Delia in Ashburnham Place from 1961 – 1981; when my family moved from Bermondsey, where my father had worked as a Stevedore in Surrey Docks, to Greenwich.
On moving into this area, my mother helped to set up the ATA along with some other neighbours who lived in Ashburnham Place at this time. The Association soon became a vibrant neighbourhood residents group and mum edited the early editions of the ‘Triangle Telegraph’ as the newsletter was named at that time.
I remember my parents churning out the first editions using a Gestetner, a type of duplicating machine and equivalent of the Photocopier of its day, in the basement of our house. We would fastidiously deliver them by hand to all the neighbouring streets and still have some of the old copies in situ.
My mother was always interested in local issues and started a campaign against HGVs and Lorries cutting though the Triangle’s narrow residential streets. She succeeded in persuading the then GLC and local Council to restrict lorry movements throughout the area. Her achievement in this regard is all the more pertinent today with the Thames Tideway Project and the increase in Lorries we are now seeing using Greenwich South Street and Greenwich High Road; a timely reminder that we still need to keep campaigning together on these quality of life issues.
But throughout her life, mum was mostly renowned and revered for her interest in and knowledge of local history. She was passionate about protecting historic buildings from development and the restoration of original interior and exterior features. She was a known local historian in her own right, ran local history courses at Goldsmiths College, where she had previously worked as an Administrator in the Department of Adult Studies. She gave talks on a variety of subjects such as the Roan School for Girls (Devonshire Drive), Queen Elizabeth’s College Almshouses (Greenwich South Street) and the Merryweather Building (Greenwich High Road) to name but a few of the buildings she really cared about in the Triangle.
Such was her interest in the history of our Neighbourhood and her fondness for the local architecture, Diana set about writing a ‘history of the buildings and community close to the heart of Greenwich, which developed in the triangle formed by Blackheath Road, Greenwich High Road, and Greenwich South Street’ namely the booklet, the Ashburnham Triangle, which was first published in 1994 and updated in 2009.
Many of you will have seen or even read my mother’s booklet which I have now discovered, is on sale on the Amazon website for £27.20! You can still read her work on the ATA website and I believe hard copies are still available for sale at the much cheaper price of £5.
It really is a fascinating read; a descriptive journey through the history of the almshouses, churches/chapels, industrial and municipal buildings, pubs, school buildings and of course the personalities and people which make the Triangle so unique in character as an area in which to live, to work and visit.
Until 2014 before her health deteriorated, my mother continued to organise and assist with local history classes and give lectures on subjects of interest at Mycenae House near to where she lived in Charlton. Her classes always proved popular and were well attended. She invited in guest speakers to cover different subjects, but the history of the Triangle was always her favourite topic from her list of talks.
As a family, we will sorely miss her boundless energy, commitment, dedication, enthusiasm and fondness for this area of Greenwich and all she contributed to it.
She was a member of and actively supported so many amenity groups among which the Ashburnham Triangle was always close to her heart. And it will be a fitting tribute to my mother for the rest of us who care so passionately about our environment and where we live, to carry on her good work in preserving our heritage for future generations to come.

Thursday, 23 May 2019

Cutty Sark poetry and live music

A reminder that the ATA's Mick Delap is putting on a performance on Friday, 24th of May, on the Cutty Sark. It will be an evening of poetry and live music, paying tribute to the age of sail, in the theatre deep in the cargo hold of the Cutty Sark. See full details by clicking here.

Friday, 17 May 2019

Lenox Project event

Anyone interested in the Lenox Project will be interested to learn that they will be at the Friends of Nunhead Cemetery open day this Saturday (May 18th). Representatives from the project will be there with their cannon and exhibition trailer, so feel free to come along to the free event to find out more about their plans for the project's new base in Deptford.

Thursday, 16 May 2019

Swifts and the Cutty Sark

A message from the ATA’s Mick Delap.
The Ashburnham Triangle swifts are back, nesting again in numbers in the eaves of Davy's Wine Shop. I find the sight of a swift swooping onto a nest is one of my most exciting wildlife experiences. If the swift has bred here before, then it will not have closed its wings for a whole year. A year that will have taken these wind travellers down to West Africa, then across to East and Southern Africa. And then back. Without ever closing their wings. And if it's a Greenwich swift breeding here for the first time as an adult, it won't have closed its wings for an extraordinary three years. Until now. Go and see for yourself.
Meanwhile, I am in need of urgent help. I am putting on a performance next Friday, 24th of May, on the Cutty Sark. It will be an evening of poetry and live music, paying tribute to the age of sail, in the theatre deep in the cargo hold of that other great wind machine, the Cutty Sark. See full details by clicking here. But tickets are going slowly, and the Cutty Sark management are worried. So, do come, do book your tickets now - and do pass on the details to anyone else you think might be interested.

Monday, 13 May 2019

Sunday, 12 May 2019

Annual Ashburnham Triangle Plant Swap

The annual ATA Plant Swap will be on Saturday 25th May between 11am-12pm in the Play Street (Ashburnham Retreat, SE10 8TZ).
Please bring plants or anything plant-related to swap, or come along and pick up a bargain.
If you've nothing to swap donations are very welcome for ‘Water for Kids’.
Everybody is welcome. See you there!

Friday, 10 May 2019

Safer Neighbourhoods Update

Sadly we have to say goodbye to Sergeant Diane Hill who has been an integral part of the Safer Neighbourhoods Police Team for the last 4 years in West Greenwich. Her most recent initiative helped bring SmartWater to the Triangle. Diane has been promoted to Inspector and is transferring to Swanley in Kent to the First Response Team. We wish her all the best in her new role.  Sergeant Hill will be replaced by Sergeant Ian O’Hara on 2 June.  
The rest of the Safer Neighbourhood Police Team remains unchanged:
Police Constable John Moody
Police Constable Jaime Welch - currently on maternity leave but returning late Aug/Sept
PCSO Henry Lawton

Over the last two months burglary figures are down - we have five reported incidents in the Triangle. Motor vehicle crime, unfortunately, continues to rise throughout the borough. There have been numerous reports of thefts from vehicle and stolen vehicles - mostly mopeds and motorbikes - from within the Triangle. Knife crime in the borough is overall down but violent crime is rising. 

Outside the Triangle
Two men have been arrested in connection with the "Lebanese Loop" on the TSB ATMs within the Town Centre. Their images were captured on CCTV and will be charged accordingly. Low cost thefts in many of the high street shops are on the increase.

The number of homeless people is rising at an alarming rate across the whole Capital. Within West Greenwich there has been a sudden rise in rough sleeping within bin sheds in Tarves Way. If you see a homeless person it was suggested to contact Street Link. Street Link exists to help end rough sleeping by enabling members of the public to connect people sleeping rough with the local services that can support them. 

Within the Triangle
Just when you think you’ve seen it all, along comes a plant thief - yes Plant Thief! Last Friday morning at approx 4.15am two plants were taken from the planters outside the Ashburnham Arms. CCTV captured the thief walking down Ashburnham Place towards Egerton Drive. This individual was looking very closely in all gardens. He was also captured going up to front doors and peering inside so this is just a reminder to make sure you chubb lock your front door and do not just rely on your yale lock.

It's been mentioned before about seeing chalk markings outside properties and that these markings are code for potential burglars. However a new report suggests this is not the case and the markings are purely for potential work. Please see below - blue text is the real meaning. While it would appear there is no burglars' code, there is a colour code to look out for. Typically, different paint colours denote different messages, with red referring to electric wiring, yellow for gas mains and blue for water.  

Tina Pugh
ATA Security 

Thursday, 2 May 2019

Update on the Thames Tideway Tunnel

Thames Tideway Tunnel have just re-submitted their Traffic Management plan for the lorry traffic which will take the spoil from the next phase of Super Sewer tunnelling out on Greenwich roads. This period of increased TTT lorry traffic is expected to last for the next three months or so (there'll be another, longer phase of more intense tunnelling starting at the end of the year). You can see this TTT application on the Greenwich Planning Search site, under application no. 19/1499/G. As Mick Delap explains, the new plan replaces the previous one which Planning Committee rejected unanimously at the end of March. And the new proposal looks as if it will affect a far smaller area of the Triangle.
TTT's original Traffic Management proposal had their lorries coming onto the Norman Road tunnel site off the A2 via Greenwich South Street, then round past Greenwich Station and the Queen Elizabeth Alms Houses, and up Greenwich High Road, to turn right into Norman Road. They would then have left, full of tunnel dirt, to head on south down Greenwich High Road and back onto the A2. Planning Committee agreed with local residents that such a route would bring increased HGV traffic through an unnecessarily large area of the local residential community. Now TTT are proposing a route which keeps their lorries away from Greenwich South Street and the area of Greenwich Station. Instead, they are proposing bringing their lorries into the Triangle at the junction of the A2 and Greenwich High Road. The HGV's will then turn left into Norman Road, where they will be checked out at a Vehicle Holding Area outside Norman House. After being waved on to the tunnelling site to pick up tunnel spoil, they will return to the A2 via Norman Road and Greenwich High Road. The new proposal would require restricting the north bound lane of Norman Road, where it joins with Greenwich High Road, to TTT lorries only. So that part of Norman Road would become one way, for the three or four months that this phase of tunnelling lasts. The new scheme greatly reduces the area of the Triangle affected by the increase in HGV traffic. However, more lorries at the Norman Road junction with Greenwich High Road will make an already difficult junction even more hazardous. Pedestrians trying to cross Norman Road by the North Pole pub, to move up or down the High Road, or into or out of Lovibond Lane, will be most affected. The ATA is already working with Councillor Mehboob Khan and Greenwich Traffic Officers to provide more security for pedestrians around the Norman Road part of the junction - and for pedestrians waiting at the A2 / High Road traffic lights, where the loaded HGV's will be turning left out of the High Road back onto the A2. The ATA also hopes to work with any local businesses along the directly affected section of Greenwich High Road who may suffer from the increase in HGV traffic. Do please use the application's Greenwich Planning web page to make a comment on what is being proposed. And if you want to share it with me, my email is 
And if you want to discuss their plans with Thames Tideway Tunnel, or catch up on any aspect of the Greenwich and Deptford Super Sewer activity, there is a quarterly Community Liaison Working Group meeting this Tuesday 7th May, at 7.00 p.m. in the Creekside Centre, on the Deptford side of the Halfpenny Hatch Bridge. All welcome.

Monday, 29 April 2019

Planning Application submitted for former Magistrates Court

A planning application has now been submitted by the owners, London Hotel Group of the former Magistrates Court on Blackheath Road. The proposal seems to be inline with the latest set of public exhibitions that were carried out in September last year, retention and refurbishment of the Magistrates Court and two former School Buildings with the development of 4 towers to the rear ranging in height from 4 storeys to 9 storeys (including two floors of proposed basements) to be linked with open and glazed courtyards.
The proposal provides for another 293 hotel rooms to the area, along with restaurants and bars – two taxi drop-off bays fronting Blackheath Road, with 14 car parking spaces and 26 bike spaces within the two subterranean basement areas accessed from Greenwich High Road. Concerns in September with the number of hotel rooms and the number of coaches and coach parking that was part of the September 2018 consultation seem to have been taken on board – now the application states that “the model of the hotel operator is such that they rarely attract coach party bookings” however, although no formal coach parking is to be provided, the proposal includes the ability for coaches to access the site from Greenwich High Road to turn around within the site to drop-off / pick-up guests. Although this was a similar stance that initial proposal for the neighbouring hotel on Catherine Grove made and they struggle to survive without regular coach parties filling their rooms.

As you can see from the above computer generated images, the proposed elevations on Greenwich High Road are taller than neighbouring properties (5 and 6 Storeys at ground level) and likely to be imposing from ground level. The main massing is within the inner area with the adjacent tower being a further two storeys taller. The proposed massing drops down
further in the two towers closer to Catherine Grove – whether or not this is enough to not reduce the impact of daylight and privacy to those in neighbouring Catherine and Burgos Grove’s is a concern. The design and access statements are also quite silent on the ground work required to create the additional two basement levels.
The full application can be found on the Council’s Planning Portal using the reference 19/1367/F. There are over 80 documents including statements and drawings and the public online consultation is open until 22nd May 2019. This is significant development for the Triangle and all residents are urged to make comment.
If you would like copies of the Design and Access Statements or more information please get in touch on

Sunday, 28 April 2019

Triangle Support Network

Judy and Rachael, who both live on Egerton Drive, are interested in offering support to anyone in the Triangle who is perhaps feeling isolated, lonely, or struggling to get out and about. They would love to hear from you if you think someone you know might fit this bill. Or indeed you yourself might like to get to know your neighbours better and perhaps have more people you could rely on for support when you need it.
At this early stage, we are first trying to establish whether there would be a demand for a 'Triangle support network' and if so, what people's needs are. Then we will investigate how those needs might be met.
Please get in touch with Judy ( ) or Rachael ( ) in the strictest confidence.

Saturday, 20 April 2019

Burglars return for Easter

Police have informed us that burglars are again operating in the area. They are trying to gain entry through front doors. Please make sure your front door is double locked/bolted and do not just rely on a single key lock.

Thursday, 11 April 2019

Reminder, Safer Neighbourhoods Meeting this Saturday

Just a reminder that there will be a police drop-in taking place this Saturday, 13th April at Jubilee Hall. Please come by anytime between 3pm and 4pm to discuss any concerns you may have.

Wednesday, 3 April 2019

Thames Tideway Tunnel update

Proposals by the Thames Tideway Tunnel contractors to make Greenwich South Street and the area around Greenwich Station a major part of the route for the lorries needed to take away the spoil from the next stage of their Super Sewer digging have been rejected by Greenwich Planning Committee.
The ATA and many worried residents attended a special Planning meeting on 28th March to voice their worries about health and safety and environmental impact. The ATA was one of a number of objectors in attendance. Planning Committee members, including West Ward Councillors Mehboob Khan and Aidan Smith, voted unanimously to reject the TTT proposal. TTT were asked instead to return to their original route in and out of the Triangle by the shorter section of Greenwich High Road between the A2 and Norman Road. Any new proposals will need to be approved. 
The ATA continues to press for improvements to pedestrian and cycle safety along this section of the suggested route. The ATA's Mick Delap is also keen to talk with those who live and work on the affected section of Greenwich High Road so please do feel free to get in touch on the following Email

Tuesday, 26 March 2019

Safer Neighbourhoods Police Meet

ATA History Group meeting on April 11th

Please come and find out more about an exciting online London history project at the next ATA history group meeting on Thursday 11 April from 7.00pm - 8.30pm in the back room at The Ashburnham Arms. We will have two members of the project team from the Institute of Historical Research to tell us about the project and show us how we can add our own ATA history and our own stories. The project, called Layers of London, has received a substantial grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund. Find out more on where you can peel back layers of London’s history to discover people and places and share your own stories, photos, documents, videos etc. The aim is to create a crowd-sourced history of London across all 32 boroughs.
Please click here to see the latest Triangle house history compiled by Margaret Luce for David Liddell, 44 Devonshire Drive and here for the related Census records.

Saturday, 23 March 2019

Important meeting this Tuesday

The ATA would like to let our members  know that we will be holding a meeting (at rather short notice) on Tuesday, 26th March at 8pm at Jubilee Hall, Blissett Street SE10 8UU.
It’s regarding the Thames Tideway Tunnel Development who are now at the stage of needing to dispose of earth. Their proposal would require a 12-month period of disruption whilst a constant flow of HGV’s use key routes within the triangle.
The ATA have put out a stream of comms about the plans updating everyone via email and Facebook but as the deadline draws nearer we thought it best to have a public meeting.
This email is to let you know when the meeting is and to ask if you could please mention it to your neighbours and friends. We will ALL be affected but some much more than others.
Please do come.

Thursday, 21 March 2019

Planning Committee Meeting, March 28th

Greenwich Area Planning Committee is being held on Thursday, 28 March 2019 at The Town Hall, Wellington Street,
Woolwich SE18 6PW starting at 6:00PM.
The following item is to be considered at the meeting:
Site: Thames Tideway Tunnel Development, Greenwich, SE10
Proposals: 18/3493/G Application for formal partial discharge of Schedule 3 GREPS1, CoCP
Part B (C415-GREPS-240) amendment to vehicular route to incorporate the following routes for the shaft excavation period of the project.

Access from:
• Blackheath Road (A2)
• Greenwich South Street
• Greenwich High Road (A206)(where the vehicle holding area will be located)
• Norman Road (B208)
Egress from:
• Norman Road (B206)
• Greenwich High Road (A206)
• Blackheath Road (A2)
18/3473/G Application for formal partial discharge of Schedule 3 GREPS9 (C415-GREPS-242) Worksite Specific Traffic Management Plan - Revised documents
18/3486/G - Application for formal partial discharge of Schedule 3 PW6 CoCP Part A, Section 5, paragraph 5.1.9 (C415-GREPS-243) Worksite Specific Construction
Logistics Plan
The agenda and the reports for the meeting, and the relevant procedural information, can be
accessed at the Council’s website at
Please note the following:
Let Committee Services know in advance of the meeting by
telephoning 020 8921 4350 or e-mailing if you wish to speak at this meeting on an agenda item; advise if you are speaking in favour of or objection to the proposal. Your name will be added to a list of speakers.